Campers have lengthy nightime encounter near Seneca witnessed in La Salle County, Illinois

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The following phone interview was conducted by Stan Courtney on the 13th of June, 2005. The witness does not have a computer or internet access so the information was entered with his permission. The first names of the two witnesses have been changed. John: A friend said he wanted to go camping. He had a black powder .45 and I had a single shot .22 with me and we walked out into the woods, which was quite a distance that we walked to get back to where we were at. My wife dropped us off so that nobody would know that we were there and we hiked all the way back. We took machetes with us and we cleared out an area, and a good little area, I would say 10' by 10' area, you know, that we cleared out, so we made quite a bit of noise, is what I'm trying to say. Anything out there is going to be gone [due to] the scent of a man first of all and all that noise that we made. Then we gathered firewood, but we were a distance out that no one else would be around. I do mean quite a distance out,...